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marin Stadium Expert
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Nikolas Stadium Expert
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Παιδια οι Times τωρα δεν ασχολουνται με τις εγκαταστασεις και επιασαν τις <<βαριες>>υποδομες...
Εχουν ενα αρθρο με τον εξης τιτλο
<<Athens will be ready, but what about roads? 13 May 2004
Athens will be ready for the Olympic Games but its troubled transport infrastructure could still let it down, the International Olympic Committee said yesterday>> αλλα δεν μπορω να το διαβασω πρεπει να κανω ρετζιστερ...Βρε ΟΥΣΤΤΤΤΤΤΤΤΤΤΤΤΤΤ |
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losada7 Moderator
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 1:26 am Post subject: |
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To επόμενο βήμα θα είναι να μας πούνε ότι "δεν λέμε καλή η διοργάνωση των αγώνων αλλά η Ελλάδα είναι πολύ πίσω στο διαστημικό της πρόγραμμα" και επίσης "δεν έχει καταφέρει να φτιάξει ένα αξιοπρεπές eurotunel που να ενώνει το Πειραιά με την Κρήτη έτσι ώστε και με 12 μποφόρ να είναι δυνατό το ταξίδι στο συγκεκριμένο νησί"
Μία είναι η απάντηση ! Απάθεια όταν κάποιοι σε ληδωρούν ασταμάτητα όσο και αν προσπαθείς να βελτιωθείς |
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jortheo Full Member
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 1:32 am Post subject: |
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COMPLEX
ΟΥΣΤ ...
Once upon a time there was an empire, today there is NOTHING. |
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m0urg0s New Member
Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 50 Location: liverpool - aigio
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Kala re paidia eleos me dautous ti allo tha broune na poune ? Exei katantisei aidia to thema. etsi opos mas exoun parousiasei eimaste xeiroteroi kai apo tin ougganta. To thema einai pos oi dikoi mas dimosiografoi exoun meinei stin apatheia kai den kanoun tpt etsi gia tous tin poune ligaki. Kala me to thema tromokratia einai etimoi na kanoun kai oi idioi tromokratikes epithes gia na poune pos eixan dikio
1000 fores na min erxotan kanenas amerikanos ,agglos, australos etsi gia na exoume tin isixia mas kai na ginoun wraioi agones. Idios gia tous agglous pou einai eleeinoi kai otan erxontai kanoun ta aisxh. |
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jortheo Full Member
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Η Αγγλια θα ζητησει Ολυμπιακους σε ενα χρονο. Τωρα θελω να τους παρουν. |
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Maiden Full Member
Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Posts: 296 Location: Brighton
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Νομίζω ότι οι Άγγλοι άν πάρουν τους αγώνες δεν θα έχουν τα δικά μας οργανωτικά προβλήματα, σε αυτούς τους τομείς η κοινωνία τους είναι έτη φωτός μπροστά απο τη δική μας. Θα πρέπει επομένως να καταφύγουμε σε κακοπροαίρετη κριτική για να βρούμε κάτι να γράψουμε γιαυτούς τότε. Γιατί να πέσουμε στο επίπεδό τους? Απλά αυτό που μπορούμε να κάνουμε είναι να μήν βάλουμε τα δυνατά μας να πάρουν τους αγώνες! If you see what I mean |
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KEFALONITIS Full Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 280 Location: NYC
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 2:27 am Post subject: |
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O agglosaxsonokos axsonas(Agglia,USA,Kanadas kai Australia) exei problhma me thn Ellada pou exei politikes rizes k' proektaseis...( p.x. o ellhnikos laos parousiazetai asymbibastos kai me aristerizouses taseis...)
H Ellada ws "mikrh" xwra exei duskolia na antidrasei..apotelesmatika.Xreiazetai omws mia synexhs sgrhgorsh ki antidrash apo olous tous Ellhnes apantaxou ws atoma ki ws omades....
Oi Ellhnes ths Australias pou einia poluari8moi kai se poleis opws einai h Melbournh exoun megalh parousias e mia xwra me mikro sxetika plh8usmo,prepei na antidroun pio dynamika ( na me sympa8eite oi ellhnoaustraloi alla den prokeitai gia kritikh alla gia thn tapeinh mou systash).
To idio ki oi Ellhnes ths USA atomika alla kai mesa tou SAE (alh8eia ti rolo paizei..) kai olwn twn syllogwn kai koinothtwn.
Epish sto B.Londino pou diamenoun pampolloi ellhnokuprioi kai elladites me politiko-oikonomikh dynamh isws hl8e h wra na kanoun entonh thn parousia tous..
As xskoumpistoume oloi mas loipon!
Isws kalo einai na paradeigmatistoume apo tous ebraious pou kapote diwkotan apo pantou enw shmera oute anekdoto den proti8etai na pei kaneis gia autous.Auto yphrxse oxi pronomio gia tous ebraious alla katakthsh (bl. mesw ths nomikhs odou,dia tou ebraikou lobby, klp).
Pera apo tous politikous logous pou oi agglosaxsones mas balloun yparxoun ki alloi pou h anafora tous isws na proideazei e9nikistika alla mallon exei politismikh bash...
O ellhnikos politismos kai kata epektash oi dhmiourgoi tou apotelousan kai apoteloun antikeimeno 8aumasmou kai fusika zhleias..
Opws o kakos ma8hths isws euxaristh8ei an o kalos atuxhsei se kapoio diagwnisma etsi isws ki o "filos" agglos ki australos isws euxaristh8ei an o apogonos tou Aristotelh ta kanei 8alatta...
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jortheo Full Member
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Δεν εχουν δωσει αρων-αρων καποια διοργανωση σε αλλη χωρα, Ευρωπαικο Στιβου ή κατι; |
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rskl7221 New Member
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 56
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Kefaloniti
Exeis anixi ena megalo "Pandora's Box" me to post sou.
Tha ithela na akouso perisoteres idees/skepseis/scholia/inootrpies/philosophies os anafora to post sou kai to thema genikotera apo tous allous forum-meisters topious kai iperaktikous.
Then nomiso oti oi Ellines genika skeftontai se aftous tous rythmous...isos kai antitheta;;;
Ean iparhi arketa kalo response, proteino i idrisi "new topic" apoklistika gia afto to thema.
Filika
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Giannis Stadium Expert
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Nikolas Stadium Expert
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 1068 Location: Άλιμος!
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Η ΔΗΜΟΣΙΟΓΡΑΦΟΣ ΤΩΝ ΤΑΙΜΣ ΣΥΝΕΧΙΖΕΙ ΝΑ ΠΡΟΚΑΛΕΙ
<<Μπηκα στον Ολυμπιακο δακτυλιο και παρεμεινα μεσα σε αυτον για 2 ωρες.>>
Επισης στο ρεπορταζ της εφημεριδας αναφερεται οτι ενας φρουρος οταν <<ανακαλυψε>>την Αγγλιδα δημοσιογραφο δεν την συνελλαβε αλλα(ακουσον-ακουσον) της ΠΡΟΣΦΕΡΕ ΜΠΥΡΕΣ ΚΑΙ ΠΡΟΘΥΜΟΠΟΙΗΘΗΚΕ ΝΑ ΤΗΝ ΞΕΝΑΓΗΣΕΙ!!!
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Giannis Stadium Expert
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 1682 Location: Ελβετία
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Στην Αγγλία, η Guardian βρήκε άλλο θέμα: «Το Στάδιο θα είναι έτοιμο, αλλά τα καθίσματα σκληρά», υποστηρίζει. Σύμφωνα με τη λονδρέζικη εφημερίδα, δεν υπάρχει χρόνος για να έρθουν από την Κίνα τα ειδικά καρεκλάκια για το ΟΑΚΑ, οπότε θα επιστρατευτούν τα παραδοσιακά (πολύ φτηνότερα) πλαστικά. «Σαν να βάζεις μηχανή Φολκσβάγκεν σε Φεράρι», λέει ένας -ανώνυμος- μηχανικός του Σταδίου. «Αν δεν προχωρήσει η παραγγελία πριν το τέλος της εβδομάδας, δεν προλαβαίνουμε να φέρουμε και να εγκαταστήσουμε τις νέες θέσεις», δηλώνει ο εισαγωγέας των νέων καθισμάτων. Σε άλλο δημοσίευμα της Guardian, η Αθήνα χαρακτηρίζεται «χαοτική» και τονίζεται ότι τα έργα θα συνεχίζονται μέχρι την τελευταία στιγμή: «Η τελετή έναρξης θα γίνει υπό τη μυρωδιά της μπογιάς που στεγνώνει».
Thee mou...oti perisepse apo myala ta esteiles sthn Agglia???? |
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marin Stadium Expert
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Ypsilon Moderator
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Να διαβάσουμε βρε marin, δε λέω, αλλά πρέπει πρώτα να κάνουμε registration! |
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marin Stadium Expert
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Oriste to antegrapsa gia ta matia sas mono!
May 14, 2004
'On the night of a bombing, I spent two hours inside the Olympic ring of steel'
By Laura Peek
IT WAS supposed to be one of the most secure places in the world, impenetrable to terrorists plotting a possible attack on this summer’s Olympics.
But for two and a half hours yesterday, as yet another bomb exploded in Athens, The Times was able to wander, un-noticed and unchallenged, inside what is supposed to be the Olympic ring of steel.
The extraordinary ease with which I was able to enter and explore the main stadium and other facilities three months before the start of the Games will increase concern about the the $1 billion security arrangements and the ability of the organisers to protect athletes and spectators.
My visit coincided with a bomb explosion outside a branch of Alpha Bank and the discovery of another device outside the offices of the HSBC bank. An organisation calling itself “the Revolutionary Struggle” claimed responsibility for three blasts last week.
The organisation went on to state that VIPs and state officials will be targets during the Olympics. “Wealthy Western Olympic tourists who plan to attend the Games are undesirables,” it told a newspaper.
Greece insists that such groups pose no threat to Olympic security, an attitude that prompted Australia to increase its travel warning to the country this week.
My tour of the Olympic stadium began at dusk when I arrived in a taxi and asked a security guard if I could look around. Instead of ordering me to leave, the guard handed me a beer and showed me around the swimming pool, cycling velodrome and agora.
Astonishingly, he warned me in broken English to watch out for police officers who patrolled every 25 minutes.
After a Times photographer took more than 90 pictures of what was intended to be a secure area, I walked into the middle of the Olympic arena.
It was only then — standing in the full glare of floodlights mounted on the famous Cala-trava roof arches — that we were spotted by a policeman.
I got in through an unprotected dirt track where the security fence had petered out. I followed the path, crossed a car park, navigated a village of temporary buildings and jumped a small ditch. Twenty metres away, the light from a television flickered in a guard’s hut but he did not notice me.
The ramp to the main entrance was still under construction so I climbed over a small fence and walked right up to the chained glass doors.
I then walked down some steps to the basement. From there, it was possible to reach the pitch-black tunnel that runs under the stadium.
Even a small device detonated here would cause devastating damage and put the badly-behind-schedule stadium out of action for the Games. A larger bomb would blast a hole in the seating area above.
I waited in the tunnel for 50 minutes to see if I would be picked up by a patrol. A policeman shone in his torch three times but did not spot me.
In that time, I could have planted anything from a home-made bomb to an alarm clock to a device on a long-term timer.
The President of Chechnya, Akhmad Kadyrov, was killed on Sunday when a bomb detonated under a seating stand at a stadium in Grozny. It is believed it was planted in concrete during building work.
Just before midnight, I walked unchallenged through the mouth of the arena and into what will be the grassy centre. There is no running track in place yet.
We took photographs for several minutes until a policeman ambled out of the tunnel and shone a torch in our faces with his hand on his gun.
He asked us how we got in, saying: “Did nobody stop you?”. When we shook our heads, he shrugged and smiled before taking our press cards.
Five minutes later, two sergeants arrived and drove us to the on-site police station. After an hour I was driven to the main police station in Maroussi. There I was questioned by detectives for several hours.
In the early hours of the morning, the local chief of police arrived. After giving us a formal caution, he admitted: “The stadium is 50-50 secure but we still have three months to go. There are lots of people coming and going so it is difficult for us. It is getting tougher. This time last year you would not have been stopped.”
An Athens Olympics spokesman said: “In the sport venues, security measures in effect are applied but not on an Olympic level. Following a security sweep in July, only those with Olympic accreditation or a ticket will be allowed to enter Olympic venues.” the International Olympic Committee said: “Walking on to a building site proves nothing with regard to the measures that will apply after the venues are locked down and security sweeps take place.”
When The Times revisited the main stadium site yesterday, after our visit was made public on Greek television, there were signs that security was being stepped up. Workers was erecting a security fence and police were preventing vehicles from pulling over.
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Giannis Stadium Expert
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 1682 Location: Ελβετία
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | 'On the night of a bombing, I spent two hours inside the Olympic ring of steel' |
mprabo re komple3ara! !! Pw pw ti ekanes esy!!!! Oute reporter stzo Irak na hsoun!!!Prepei na exei mizerh erwtikh zwh auto to....gynaika!
3inofatses bacon-ofagoi! |
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ZORBAS Full Member
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 364 Location: London
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Maiden wrote: | Νομίζω ότι οι Άγγλοι άν πάρουν τους αγώνες δεν θα έχουν τα δικά μας οργανωτικά προβλήματα, σε αυτούς τους τομείς η κοινωνία τους είναι έτη φωτός μπροστά απο τη δική μας. |
File Maiden sygnwmi alla opos mallon ksereis genika diafono me tin empistosini sou stis, perivoites pleon, organotikes dynameis tis agglias. AN tous paroune edw tha eimaste oloi se merika xronia na doume eti fotos kai prasina aloga. Exeis perasei kamia volta apo to anatoliko Londino sthn perioxh pou theloun na ginei to kainourgio Olympiako Stadio na deis; Den nomizo.
Jortheo itane na ginei sto Londino to Pagosmio Stivou to 2005 kai ta skatwsane. ypotithete oti tha ftiaxnane kainourgio athlitiko syggrotima sto Pickets Lock stin idia perioxi pou THA ginei AN kerdisoun tou Olympiakous tou 2012. Kai tora pou tha doune kai to OAKA ton Aygousto perimene na deis ti exei na ginei giati den exoune kai tipota tromera sxedia.
opios thelei na dei pia xora anelave apo tous perifimous agglous edw:
http://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/projects/2005_athletics/
Kai kati allo: fantastite ean eixe ginei kati tetio se mas.
Oi efimerides tin epoxi ekini stin agglia, kai to thymame kala, ta sourane ligo stis piso selides alla san antiperispasmo asxolithikan pio poli me tis kathyeterisis stin athina para me to strapatso tous! "A ftaiei i kyvernisi, kalitera na min ginoun edw, kai alles orees dikaiologies alla pros theou na ftaiei oli i agglia! Emeis eimaste organomenoi, oi kyvernisieis mas den einai klp"
An itane stin Ellada tha eftege OLH i Xwra. "Giati eimaste asxetoi, tempelides ths telytas stigmhs, den mporoume na organosoume tipota".
Varethika na ta lew..
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b0uk|tsa New Member
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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ola oraia kai kala, h mia gomena mpainei sto elliniko kai girofernei mazi me enan fotografo gia 2,5 ores opos h idia anefere sto arthro tis kai o fotografos den prolabe na trabi3ei esto mia foto?
genikos ola auta ta dimosieumata mou fainontai ligo paratrabigmena, afieroneis 2 ores kapou opou kaneis allos den mporei na mpei kai den tha trabi3eis mia foto gia tin apokleistikotita?
polu paparatsi mou fainetai h katastasi, protagonistria h super sexy Elladitsa mas kai ziliarides thavmastes oi UK, USA kai ta kagkouro oi Australoi. |
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b0uk|tsa New Member
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yelos Full Member
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 273 Location: ATHENS
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Τι έγινε λέει με τη δημοσιογραφίσκη;
Αποφάσισε να κάνει παρέα στους φίλους της τα σκουλίκια και μπήκε στους υπονόμους;
Απαιτώ από αυτούς που εκπροσωπούν την Ελλάδα να αντικρούσουν όλες τις γελοιότητες αυτής της κομπλεξικής ΨΕΥΤΡΑΣ.
Ας πάρουν και μια κάμερα να δείξουν πλάνα από το στίβο που αυτή αναφέρει ότι There is no running track in place yet, να την κάνουν ρεζίλι.
Σίγουρα θα υπάρχουν και στην Αγγλία τύποι που θα τους είναι αντιπαθής. Ας παίξουμε λοιπόν με τους κανόνες του παιχνιδιού για μια φορά. |
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ZORBAS Full Member
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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File mou, nomizw oti mia genikh apantisi tous dothike (einai sto Athens2004 website;). Den yparxei logos na asxoloumaste allo me tetious "dimosiografous". Exoune kantantisi "komikoi" pia kai sigoura h kyria tha ta pire sto kranio oti tin pigane sto tmima kai gi'auto grafei ayta pou grafei (ta misa sigoura ta ebgale apo tin fantasia tis).
Oi kalyteres apantiseis dinontai me erga kai pra3eis, kai nomizw oti o kosmos matia exei kai blepei, asxeta me ton ean orismena MME tha bgaloun kai tin teleytaia stagona mexri tis 13 Aygoustou.
To OAKA einai APEXTO kai tha sbhsoume aneta thn mnhmh tou Sydney gia to opio exw barethei na akouo. 3 Mhnes minane |
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yelos Full Member
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 273 Location: ATHENS
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Συμφωνώ με όλα όσα λες, γιαυτό και δεν δίνω ιδιαίτερη σημασία στα ΜΜΕ διότι μετά τους Αγώνες αυτά θα αποτελούν παρελθόν.
Ωστόσο δεν είναι δυνατό να δείχνουμε απαθείς σε τέτοιου είδους συκοφαντίες.
Και θεωρώ ότι είναι ευκαιρία να χρησιμοποιήσουμε το συγκεκριμένο συμβάν για να ξεσκεπάσουμε τη σκ*** και όλους τους ομοίους της. |
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palaenium New Member
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Παιδιά στο απογευματινό δελτίο ειδήσεων του MEGA, είπαν οτι η αστυνομία έχει φωτογραφίες που αποδεικνύουν οτι έιχαν εντοπίσει την τύπισσα από την στιγμή που πάτησε το πόδι της στο ΟΑΚΑ. |
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Giannis Stadium Expert
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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proswpika tha grapsw ena 3egyrismeno -email stous times shmera to brady....etsi, gia na mporesw na koimhthw ( den eimai apo tous nhfalious...) |
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