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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pedia kserw poli kala ti lew...oute stin Aglia tiroudai oi kanones asfalias. Exw erthei se epafi me construction sites kai ergates. Den lew, tous mirazodai kapela kai botes me metaliki enisxisi..ala DEN ta forane giati den tous volevoun. Anitan pio mages apoemas tha tous to epevalan.


Για να στέκει η κριτική σου στο BBC πρέπει να αποδείξεις ότι το BBC αν τα μάθαινε αυτά, δεν θα τα κανε θέμα. Λοιπόν το BBC γενικά δεν μασάει σε τίποτα, ούτε στους δικούς του, ούτε στους ξένους.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrow madrix, και γω συνεχια μεσα-εξω σε εργοταξια ειμαι. Ειπαμε εαν δεν θελει ο εργατης να τηρησει τους κανονες δεν μπορει να εισαι συνεχεια απο πανω του!!. Για να μην ξεφυγω τελειως ομως, σχετικα με το δημοσιευμα η απορια μου παραμενει. Εαν οι κανονες εφαρμοζονται και απλα οι εργατες ειναι ξεροκεφαλοι, τοτε το ΒΒ, εχει αδικο. Εαν ομως το προβλημα ειναι βαθυτερο τοτε κατι πρεπει να γινει. 14 ατομα ειναι σχετικα πολλα. Υπαρχουν παιδια στο φορουμ που εχουν δουλεψει στα ολυμπιακα εργα. Ας μας πουν αυτοι κατι...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Μετά τη Guardian και το ΑΡ έβαλε γυαλιά και βλέπει τώρα τα έργα να τελειώνουν

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OLY_ATHENS_RACE_TO_FINISH?SITE=DCTMS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asfaleia...
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/07/23/sports1558EDT0339.DTL
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L23363071.htm
http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=897494&tw=wn_wire_story
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/07/23/sports1013EDT0267.DTL
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FG24Aa03.html
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aqwpDnX4CCLs&refer=top_world_news

(Led) Zepelin...
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/newse/20040724wo41.htm
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_sports/view/97279/1/.html

Eishtiria
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/Stories/0,1413,206~29580~2284109,00.html
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/sports/articles/0721sptbriefs0721.html
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-07/22/content_1627173.htm

Ti egine re paidia, 3afnika ftia3ame tis egkatastaseis se 1 mera?
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/07/23/sports1600EDT0341.DTL
http://www.news24.com/News24/Olympics2004/OutsideTrack/0,,2-1652-1655_1562154,00.html
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/topstories/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1090615185216230.xml
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pes ta xrusostome...

July 24, 2004
OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR
Greek Myths
By NICHOLAS GAGE


ATHENS

A lthough the Summer Olympics are still a few weeks away, one event has already started and threatens to dominate all the others - the rush to judgment.

For more than a year now, self-appointed doomsayers and armchair Cassandras have been predicting total disaster for the Olympic Games when they begin on Aug. 13 here, in the country where they were founded in 776 B.C. and where they were revived in 1896.

The gloomy forecasts have come in numerous newspaper articles and television features, first predicting that the venues would never be completed in time and that disaster was inevitable. Now that it is clear that the projects will be ready, there comes an array of warnings that terrorists could be a threat because the structures are being finished too late for security systems to be fully tested.

Athens has been slammed in the American news media in a way that other Olympics hosts never were, even though many failed to complete projects (Barcelona) and had security problems (Atlanta). Athens has been judged and found wanting before the Games have started. That's like anticipating disaster for a movie before it opens, and I need only mention the success of "Titanic" and "The Passion of the Christ" to point out the pitfalls of such premature verdicts.

As for the latest warnings about security at the Olympics, what I can say is this: I was born in Greece and spent my first 10 years living through the waves of war and revolution that engulfed the country in the 1940's. As an investigative reporter for The Times I covered organized crime and drug trafficking and later, as a foreign correspondent for the paper, I reported on conflicts throughout the Middle East. I have some experience in assessing risk, and not only am I going to be in Athens throughout the Olympics, but my wife and daughter are also coming with me.

We are confident we will be safe because we know the measures that are being taken to provide security for the Games. Athens is spending $1.2 billion on security, four times the amount spent for the Sydney Games. Greece has called together a platoon of experts from the United States, Britain, Israel and several other countries to help Greek authorities plan and direct operations for the Olympics. Biometric identification measures to control access to the Games have been set up at all venues, and 1,320 cameras have been installed throughout the city. While Awacs planes provided by NATO survey the skies over Athens, a force of 70,000 Greek police, military and security personnel will patrol every area connected to the Olympics, including the harbors where cruise ships will be anchored to house the overflow of expected visitors.

Most recently a blackout in parts of southern Greece, including Athens, set off new waves of alarm. But the blackout was caused by human error, not any weakness in the Greek electrical grid. The peak of electricity demands in Greece comes in July, not August. As John Paleocrassas, head of the public power corporation, told me, New York has had much worse blackouts for longer periods, but no one is suggesting that as a result, the Republican convention should not be held there in August.

No one can feel safe anywhere these days. But Greece has not been the target of significant international terrorist threats in recent years.

So cut Greece a little slack, at least for the short time remaining before the Games begin.

Greece is the smallest nation ever to hold the Summer Olympics and the one with the fewest financial resources. Yet it has had to build more venues than any previous host country as well as set up the most costly and most extensive security operation in the history of the Olympics.

Despite all that, the venues have been completed. The jewel in the crown - the glass and steel dome over the main Olympic stadium, designed by the renowned Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava - has been fitted into place. It rises majestically over the stadium, a symbol of the new Athens just as the Acropolis signifies the ancient city.

Yes, the Athens organizers got an inexcusably late start, but they picked up steam as the deadline approached. Yes, there have been heart-stopping delays. And yes, work on part of the 26-mile road on which the marathon will be run stopped when the original contractor went bankrupt. (But a new contractor took over and officials say the road will be finished next week.)

It's also true that the swimming center will not have the roof planned for it, but panels have been installed to provide shade from the August sun. It's also true that some of the landscaping around the venues may not be finished in time, but every city holding the Games had problems. The roof of the swimming center in Barcelona was never installed, for example.

It's worth remembering that Athens will offer something no other city ever provided - what Lawrence Durrell called "spirit of place." To have the marathon run over the very route Pheidippides ran in 490 B.C. to bring Athenians news of victory over the Persians, to have athletes throwing the discus and javelin in the shadow of the Acropolis, to have men and women from all over the world competing where democracy was born, will provide some of the most stirring and unforgettable moments Olympic spectators have ever experienced.


Nicholas Gage is the author of "Eleni" and "Greek Fire: The Story of Maria Callas and Aristotle Onassis."



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pws htan kapote oi agwnes..


Apo tous NYT:



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/23/arts/design/23GLUE.html


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Το ενδεχόμενο μόνιμης τέλεσης των Ολυμπιακών Αγώνων στην Αθήνα, αν διοργανωθούν με επιτυχία στην ελληνική πρωτεύουσα, προτείνει με άρθρο της το "Washington Monthly".

από sportime.gr:
http://www.sportime.gr/html/ent/278/ent.29278.asp
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Το άρθρο είναι εξαιρετικά καλογραμμένο.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0407.larson

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Το λινκ για τον Γκατζογιάννη. Έτσι θέλει, πολύ καλός.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/24/opinion/24gage.html
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ARTHRO TIS GIANNAS STOUS WASHINGTON TIMES PEMPTI 22 IOULIOU

http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20040721-081701-1132r.htm

AFIEROMA TOU ITALIKOU PERIODIKOU PANORAMA STIN ELLADA ME TITLO “TO FENOMENO ELLADA” (Deytera 19/7)

http://www.panorama.it/home/index.html

mia synopsi kai proxeiri metafrasi gia tous mi omilountes tin Italiki :

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Meta ti niki sto Eyropaiko protathlima podosfairou kai paramones twn Olympiakwn agonwn i Athina allazei prosopo. Kai apo Staktopouta tis Eyropis ginetai Prigkipissa epireazontaw olokliri ti xora. Oi synoikies anagenithikan , ta megara anakainistikan oi dromoi katharistikan.
Ksexaste o,ti asximo gnorizate gia tin Athina. Apo ti stigmi pou katevike sto Aerodromio El Venizelos eos ti stigmi pou vgike apo ston astraftero stathmo tou metro ston pezodromo kato apo ton Parthenona makrya apo ti fasaria tis polis tis gennithike to aisthima oti zouse se ena thayma. H Sofka Zinovief, anthropologos, dimosiografos kai syggrafeas toy bibliou “Odos Eyrydikis” (ena eksoxo vivlio gia ti simerini ellada pou molis kykloforise sti bretania apo ton oiko Granta, epivevaionei : “H allagi fenetai aprosmeni, alla arxise edo kai mia dekaetia xari stin Eyropi kai tis ependyseiw pouy eginan gia tou Olympiakous agones. Tora pou kleinoun ta ergotaksia to apotelesma ginetai profanes. Alla yp;arxei kai mia akomi allagi, aorati : i pneymatikotita tou laou”

H Athina simera karpoforei erga arxitektonikis pou kapote tha emoiazan eksopragmatika. Prokeitai gia ena theatro anadiorganosis pou edose xroma kai fos se megara tis polis, anedeikse tis elikistikes arxaiotites mesa apo to tsimento, anadiorganose tis synoikies pou eixan thaftei stin egkataleipsi. Den yparxei pia mono i Akropoli kai i Plaka pou asizei na episkefteite. Yparxei to Kolonaki pou egine kentro gia shopping. To Monastiraki os simeio synantisis kai mesanatolitikou pazariou…. To Gkazi palio viomixaniko kentro pou simera prosferei theatrikes kai mousikes avant garde parastaseis…Opoudipote oi anthropoi einai filikoi. Anamesa sti niki tou Eyrpaikou Protathlimatos kai tin anamoni gia tous Olympiakous Agones kyriarxei I antyposi oti “eftase I megali ora tis Elladas”, opos mas leei kai h Eirini mia odigos taxi se aploika agglika. Sto onoma aytis tis anagennisis (I Eirini) vlepei me thetiko mati tileitourgia tis grammis apo to kentro tis polis sto aerodromio pou egkainiastike aytes tis meres. “Kathari xasoura gia mas. To treno kostizei 8 Euro. To taxi kostizei ta dipla”. Alla ayto den exei simasia. “Oti xanoume apo ekei to kerdizoume apo allou kathos anaptyssetai o tourismos”
(...)
Apo ton neo prothypourgo Kosta Karamanli , os ton antipallo tou Giorgo Papandreou, ap;o ti Dimarxo Ntora Mpakogiannios tin proedro tou Athina 2004 Gianna Aggelopoulou Daskalaki, ;oloi exouns to myalo tous to “programma Ellada” pou aposkopei sto na vgalei ti xora apo tis teleytaies theseis. H eythyni gia tin eikona twn agwnwn, gia tis teletes enarksis kai liksis, dothike ston lampro 42xrono xorografo Dimitri Papaioannou.
(synexizetai)
(PROFANOS STO EPOMENO TEYXOS)

YPARXOUN AKOMI TA EKSIS ARTHRA AFIEROMATA :
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« Antio Souvlaki. Einai i wra tou Shushi » (mikros toustikos odigos)
“Ksenodoxeia , bars kai xoroi synatisis ti nykta” (mikros toustikos odigos)
“Ogigos gia ton athlitiko tourismo tis Athinas” (mikros toustikos odigos)
“OI yperoxoi 10 : To galazio xroma pou tha mas kanei na oneirevomaste” (afieroma stous Italous athlites)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Παιδιά, σας εκλιπαρώ: ΜΗΝ κάνετε αυτούσιο copy-paste το κείμενο των άρθρων, ειδικά όταν πρόκειται για ολόκληρα κατεβατά (π.χ. 5-6 posts πιο πάνω). Αρκεί το link ή έστω και μία σύντομη περιγραφή ή απόσπασμα από το άρθρο.

Υπήρξε μία σχετική ανοχή ως τώρα σε αυτό το thread, αλλά αν συνεχιστεί αυτή η κατάσταση θα αναγκαστούν οι mods να επεμβαίνουν μόνοι τους στα μηνύματά σας, να διαγράφουν τα κείμενα και να βάζουν τα links.

Ευχαριστώ για τη συνεργασία που είμαι σίγουρος ότι θα έχω από μέρους σας.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xilia sygnwmh mias ki egw eimai o ..enoxos.. Embarassed

O logos pou ebala ta duo parapanw ap8ra autousia htan epeidh kapoioi eixan ekfrasei duskolies me to "link".

Hdh esbhsa to ena ap8po kai to antikatesthsa me thn diadiktuakh dieu8unsh.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paidia koitakste to website gia tous Olumpiakous tis Deutsche-Welle

Poso pio antikeimeniko kai swsto apo ta agglosaxonika entypa, e?

http://www6.dw-world.de/en/967.php

Episis, kanete kai to online poll kai deite ta apotelesmata! Bravo re Germanoi...!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Δε λένε να σταματήσουν!!! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

Η Αθήνα κατα τη γνώμη του είναι ένα ασταθές σημείο της Ευρώπης όπου κυριαρχεί το χάος! Και φυσικά προτιμά να ξαναγίνουν οι αγώνες στο Sydney! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

Διαβάστε...

http://www.reporter-news.com/abil/sp_tennis/article/0,1874,ABIL_8042_3063076,00.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ε τη να κάνουμε υπάρχουν και αδιόρθωτη Evil or Very Mad εγώ πάντως θα έλεγα να πάμε ΟΛΗ Η ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ στα ΣΤΑΔΙΑ Twisted Evil να τους χαμογελάμε (και ας βρίζουμε από μέσα μας Twisted Evil )όταν κερδίζουν να τους χειροκροταμε Cool (και να τα βλέπουν η ρεπόρτερ και να σκάνε από το κακό τους Cool ) και μετά ας έρθουν να μας πούνε κάτι Twisted Evil (αν και νομίζω κάτι άλλο θα βρούνε)
Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
Και να έχουμε τους Αμερικανούς να μιλάνε για τα χάλια της Αθήνας (λες και το Brooklyn είναι πολύ ωραίο) αλλά πιστεύω έχουμε την δυνατότητα να τους αποδείξουμε Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
Ότι είμαστε άξιοι τον Ολυμπιακών αγόνων (καλά ούτε πολιτικός να ήμουνα τη λέτε ρε παιδιά κάνω?)
Cool Cool Cool
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Re paidia, it makes sense now giati oi afstraloi ine toso enadion mas. Kseroun kai poli kala malista oti i elada ine i pnevmatiki xwra twn olibiakwn agwnwn kai prospathoun na ipovathmisoun tin epistrofi tis telesis twn agwnwn stin athina. Ola afta vevea giati...kseroglifodai na diorganonoun monima tous olibiakous sto Sudney pipilodas tin karamela oti diorganosan tous pio epitiximenous agwnes so far.
Kata vathos omos kseroun oti an bei sto trapezi twn diapragmatefsewn kati tetio tote i athina tha ine o kirioteros adipalos tous. Den kserw ala exw mia proesthisi oti oi agwnes mas tha ine anef proigoumenou, oxi epidi ime elinas ala to vlepw apo to pathos twn diwrganotwn kai tin proetimasia pou exei ginei..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ένα εξαιρετικό άρθρο από τους NY Times (θέλει registration) με τίτλο "After the Scandals Have Played Out, Let the Games Begin" που καταλήγει...

The mystique of the Olympic Games may have diminished through the ages. And this particular Olympics may have unique challenges. But I fully expect to watch the performances - and the Parthenon and all it conjures - in utter awe.

I will be watching in the spirit of Homer, who wrote in "The Odyssey," "There is no greater glory for a man in all his life than what he wins with his own feet and hands."


Το πλήρες άρθρο στο http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/25/sports/olympics/25nyad.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0407.larson

Malista...alla genika oi xenoi exouv lisaxei mhn petixoume kai, mia mera, oi agones (h kati to papomio) apokatasththouv movima sthn Ellada.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loipon molis tora eida sto site tou nbc online poll:

"Will Athens be ready for the Olympics?"

Kai ta apotelesmata lene 67% OXI!!!

Oloi paidia mazi na psifisoume tora (kato-kato deksia sti selida)!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4581243/
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to riksame sto 63% hdh...lol
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loipon o kyrios Rogge edwse kai alli synenteuxi kai milaei gia tin epitixia tis Athinas. Genika einai metrimenos, alla to zoumi briskete sto oti dilwse oti oso einai proedros tis DOE den tha xanapei pote gia Olympiakous oti einai best ever. Leei oti exei plousio lexilogio to opoio kai tha xrisimopoiisei gia na perigrapsei tous Olympiakous kai episis dikaiologei autin tou ti stasi me to oti einai adiko na sygkrineis anomoia pragmata opws Olympiakous pou ginontai se diaforetikes xwres, cultures, epoxes klp.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=190&art_id=qw1090830063591B242
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Συμφωνώ. Είναι άδικο να συγκρίνεις διαφορετικούς Ολυμπιακούς που γίνονται σε χώρες με διαφορετικές δυνατότητες και κάτω από διαφορετικές συνθήκες.
Γι' αυτούς ακριβώς τους λόγους ο κύριος Ρογκ είναι υποχρεωμένος να πει ότι οι δικοί μας αγώνες ήταν οι καλύτεροι (εφόσον πάνε καλά βέβαια)...
Είμαστε ίδιοι με την Αυστραλία; Έχουμε ίδιες οικονομίες, ίδιο βιωτικό επίπεδο; Παρ' όλα αυτά, ποιος έκανε τις καλύτερες εγκαταστάσεις, ποιος ανέπτυξε το πληρέστερο και ακριβότερο σύστημα ασφάλειας, ποιος είχε την ατυχία να πέσει στην πρώτη διοργάνωση μετά την 11/9; Μια μικρή χώρα 10 εκατομμυρίων ανθρώπων, που μέχρι πριν λίγα χρόνια ήταν παράδειγμα προς αποφυγήν στα πάντα!
Και το βασικότερο: Αν ο κύριος Ρογκ είναι θεματοφύλακας του Ολυμπισμού όπως ισχυρίζεται, δεν του λέει τίποτα το γεγονός ότι οι αγώνες επιστρέφουν στη γενέτειρά τους;
Μην τρελαθούμε κιόλας. Και μόνο γι' αυτό, οφείλει να τους ξεχωρίσει από το σωρό. Το να πει κάποιος αυτήν την γενναιόδωρη φράση, είναι μια πράξη αβροφροσύνης απέναντι σε έναν ολόκληρο λαό. Κάτι σαν ευχαριστώ. Πάντα όταν πηγαίνουμε κάπου και περνάμε καλά, υπερβάλουμε λίγο υπέρ του οικοδεσπότη. Συνειδητά, και με την καρδιά μας. Δεν θα του κοστίσει τίποτα του καραγκιόζη να αναγνωρίσει μια σειρά ιδιαιτερότητες που έχουν αυτοί οι Αγώνες.
Απλά δεν μπορεί να καταλάβει Χριστό πέρα από οικονομικά μεγέθη και γενικά την εμπορική χροιά του "εμπορεύματός του".
Αν είχε στοιχειώδες φιλότιμο, θα έπρεπε να το ξανασκεφτεί.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Να και η απάντηση στο άρθρο του περιοδικού Business 2.0 από το Συμβούλιο Απόδημου Ελληνισμού Αμερικής.

http://www.saeamerica.org/en/news/2004/0722.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Κι άλλες βλακείες απο Herald Tribune. Evil or Very Mad
Είχαμε πυρήνες, το ξέρατε; Αμε πως. Exclamation


Ρουσόπουλος: Διάψευση δημοσιεύματος για επικίνδυνους "μουσουλμανικούς πυρήνες"

Διαψεύδει ο υπουργός Επικρατείας και κυβερνητικός εκπρόσωπος, κ. Θ. Ρουσόπουλος, το δημοσίευμα της Herald Tribune, που μιλάει για "μουσουλμανικούς πυρήνες, που ενδέχεται να αποδειχθούν κίνδυνος για τη Δημοκρατία".

"Δεν υπάρχει καμιά τέτοια πληροφορία. Μίλησα και με το υπουργείο Δημόσιας Τάξης", δήλωσε χαρακτηριστικά ο κ. Ρουσόπουλος, διαψεύδοντάς την.

(Ευτυχώς που τον ρώτησε δηλαδή...)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

H APATH TWN MME KAI TA MME THS APATHS

Filoi mou, e tin eykairia toy dimosieymatos tis Sunday Mirror gia tin teleti enarksis kai tis Herald Tribune gia tous "pyrhnes" thelw na sas thymisw oti den einai liges oi fores pou oi legomenes « laikes efimerides » tis Agglias typou Mirror. Sun klp, exoun poulisei fikia me metaksotes kordeles. Den mporo na po oti to dimosieyma einai pseftiko alla oute kai alithino. Ayto pou thelo na sas metafero einai mia syntomi itsoriki anadromi pou vrika sto BBC gia pseftikes eidiseis pou kataferan na prokalesoun patago apla me tin alithofaneia tous. Ekana mia grigori kai synoptiki metafrasi kai idou:
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- Maios 2004 : H Mirror dhmosieyei fotografies me Vretanous stratiotes na vasanizoun Irakinous aixmalotous sto Iraq. Oi fotografies amfisvitithikan alla i efimerida epemene gia tin afthentikotita tous. Telika apodeixthikan plastes kai o arxisyntaktis Pies Morgan apolythike.

- To 1999 i SUN dimosyese mia tholi fotografia parmeni apo videotainia, stin opoia – opos ypostirize – fainontan i Dianna na filietai me ton erasti tis James Hewitt. Telika apodeixthike oti i videotainia itan plasti kai i SUN zitise syggnomi.

- To 1983 oi Sunday Times tou Londinou (idioktisias Rupert Murdoch) kai to Germaniko periodiko Stern dimosieysan apospasmata tou “imerologiou tou Hitler” to opoio apodeixthike pws itan plasto. To eixe syggrapsei kapoios Konrad Kujau o opoios eixe diavasei xiliades omilies tou Hitler. Yper tis afthentikotitas tou eixe apofanthei me apolyti vevaiotita o istorikos kai arhtrografos twn Times Lordos Dacre. Omws, opws apodeixthike apo epistimoniki ereyna to xarti kai to melani pou eixan xrisimopoiithei gia ti syggrafi tou imerologiou itan ... metapolemikis texnologias.

- To 1924 i Daily Mail dimosieyese mia epistoli tou Gregory Zinoviev epikefalis tis Comintern, diladi tou politikou mixanismou tis Sovietikis Enwsis pou eixe ws apostolic tou tin diadosi tou kommounismou diethnws. Apo tin epistoli evgaine to symperasma oti kapoioi aristeroi sxediazan na odigisoun ti Bretania se emfylio polemo. Ekeines tis meres i Bretania itan se proeklogiki periodo kai to dimosieyma prokalese salo kai oi Ergatikoi exasan tis ekloges kai tin eksousia. Akomi kai simera oi Ergatikoi thymountai tin synomosia se varos tous. Se mia ereyna pou egine to 1999 apo ton Gill Bennett, istoriko tou Bretanikou yp. Eksoterikwn, apodeixthike oti tin epistoli kataskeyasan Rossoi antikommounistes eksoristoi apo tin Letonia, oi opoioi den ithelan i kybernisi twn Bretanwn ergatikwn na anagnosrisei tin kommounistiki kybernisi tis Mosxas. Tin plasti epistoli diereysan sttin Daily Mail praktores twn mystikwn ypiresiwn tis Bretanias.

Enas apo tous megalyterous apataiones tou typou einai o amerikanos Alan Abel , o opoios exei kata kairous kataferei sovares efimerides – akomi kai tous New York Times – na dimosyesoun ta alithofani paramythia tou ena apo ta opoia itan o ... thanatos tou. O idios dilose sto BBC: “An katafereis na sofisteis mia kali istoria kai na tin pasareis se mia efimerida mia mera pou den yparxoun megala gegonota, tote oi arxisyntaktes tha tsimpisoun. Akomi kai eidiseis pou enexoun dolo parapliroforisis einai syxno fainomeno se xores me aneptygmeni eleftherotypia. An malista i eidisi einai poly simantiki viazontai na tin dimosyesoun protoi. H dimosiografia den einai epistimi. Oi arxisyntaktes exoun to dikaioma na kanoun lathi. Den exoun to alathito. ”

Enas proin dimosigrafos tou Guardian eixe pei : “Oi dimosiografoi prepei na einai epifylaktikoi. Panta na dierotontai pou mporei na thelei na tous odigisei o fainomenika eilikrinis pliroforiodotis tous. Prepei na einai kaxypoptoi kai na min pidane apo tin xara tous... Na eksetazoun ta kinitra tou pliroforiodoti tous. Na rotoun, na rotoun, na rotoun!!!



To afthentiko keimeno tou reportaz mporete na to vreite stin :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3716013.stm
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