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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kai ena endiaferon online poll stin proti selida tou NBC Olympics:

http://www.nbcolympics.com/index.html

Ta apotelesmata einai entharryntika!....
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anafora tou Bllomberg News sta stadia :

OLYMPIC VENUES
By Alex Lowe, PA Sport
ATHENS, July 1 (Olympics) - The Athens Olympic Games, a blend of antiquity and
modernity, will be played out in a unique set of venues ranging from a stadium
nearly 3,000 years old to a host of new structures.
Organisers have had their problems getting all the venues ready on time and a
number of concessions had to be made along the way.
But as the Games return to their spiritual home, nothing will deflect from the
splendour of the Ancient Olympia stadium hosting competition for the first time
since 393 BC.
The Panathinaikon Stadium - the marble stadium where the modern Olympics were
revived in 1896 - will witness the finish of the marathon.
Here, PA Sport takes a look at all the Athens Olympic venues:

OLYMPIC STADIUM (located at the Athens Olympic Sports Complex)
The Olympic Stadium, the centrepiece of the Athens Games, hosts the track and
field events plus the opening and closing ceremonies.
A steel-and-glass roof designed by Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava is to
be the ``architectural signature'' of the Games but its erection over the
stadium was delayed.
The upgrading of the 75,000 capacity stadium has been one of the more public
concerns, with dove-white seats only ordered from an Australian firm in April.

ANCIENT OLYMPIC STADIUM (Olympia)
The Games return to their spiritual home in ancient Olympia, 200 miles from
Athens, with the final of the men's and women's shot-put to be held in the
historic stadium.
To preserve the site there will be no temporary structures or grandstands, no
electronic boards or artificial lighting. Only movable throwing circles will be
placed in the stadium.
Olympia was the site of the ancient Olympic Games until 393 BC. and visitors
can walk through the ruins of the Temple of Zeus.

PANATHINAIKO STADIUM
The ancient marble Panathinaiko Stadium is widely known as 'Kallimarmaro' and
was the venue for the first modern Olympic Games in 1896.
In ancient years it hosted the Panathenean Games, festival events that were
held to honour the Greek goddess Athena (the Goddess of wisdom, skills, and
warfare in ancient Greece and protector of the City of Athens).
The overall project of restoration resulted in a 40,000 capacity for the
marathon finish - 108 years after Spyros Louis ran into the stadium to become
the first marathon gold medal winner of the modern era. It also hosts the
archery.

KARAISKAKI STADIUM (Athens)
The Karaiskaki Stadium was the velodrome for the first modern Olympic Games in
1896 before being renovated during the 1960s. It has been revamped into a modern
football stadium for 33,000 fans and hosts 11 matches, including both the men's
and women's finals. Greek club Olympiakos will move in after the Games.

MARATHON START (Marathon)
The race starts in the village of Marathon and follows the same route taken by
Greek messenger Phidippides, who ran 26 miles 385 yards to Athens to announce
the Greek victory against the Persians, only to drop dead upon delivering the
news.
The 2004 race will finish at the Panathinaiko Stadium - the famous marble
arena where the Games were revived in 1896 and where Spyros Louis became the
first marathon gold medal winner of the modern era.

ACOS KOSMAS OLYMPIC SAILING CENTRE
The Olympic Sailing Centre is located in the coastal area of southern Attica
and was built specifically for the Games and hosted sailing events August 2002
and 2003.

ANO LIOSSIA OLYMPIC HALL
The Olympic Hall, with a capacity of 9,000 and located in the north-west of
Athens, hosts the judo and the wrestling.

ATHENS CITY CENTRE CYCLING ROAD RACE COURSE
Cycling's road race will start and finish line at Kotzia Square but as been
designed in co-operation with the International Cycling Union to pass through
the most important sites of the Greek capital.

OLYMPIC AQUATIC CENTRE (Athens Olympic Sports Complex)
The Aquatic Centre hosts the swimming, water polo, synchronised swimming and
diving in three different pools.
The plans for a roof over the main outdoor pool, where the swimming and water
polo takes place, were scrapped in March and schedule tinkered with to avoid the
worst of the blazing Athens sun. Much to the divers' delight, they compete
indoors.

OLYMPIC INDOOR HALL (Athens Olympic Sports Complex)
The basketball finals and gymnastics (artistic and trampoline) take place in
the Indoor Hall which boasts a capacity pushing 20,000.

OLYMPIC TENNIS CENTRE (Athens Olympic Sports Complex)
The Olympic tennis is contested on the same hard surface as the US Open which
is unlikely to help the Brits' challenge for gold. The complex consists of a
centre court with capacity of 8,600 seats, two other show courts and 13 outside
courts.

OLYMPIC VELODROME (Athens Olympic Sports Complex)
The Velodrome, for the track cycling event, also boasts a roof designed by
Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava and has been renovated to hold over 5,000
spectators for the Games. The 250m track, made of afzelia hard wood, is banked
42degrees on the bends and 12 degrees on the straight.

OLYMPIC BEACH VOLLEYBALL CENTRE (Faliro Coastal Olympic Zone)
The Volleyball Centre, in coastal Faliro, boasts a brand new 10,000-seater
court and was bedded in during a test event last summer.

SPORTS PAVILION (Faliro Coastal Olympic Zone)
The Pavilion is a completely new venue built in Faliro, Southern Attica with
8,000 seats, to host the taekwondo events and the preliminary handball rounds.

PEACE AND FRIENDSHIP STADIUM (Faliro Coastal Zone Olympic Complex)
The famous Peace and Friendship Stadium is a magnificently designed,
14,000-capacity arena that hosts the volleyball.

GALATSAI OLYMPIC HALL
A new complex, the Olympic Hall in Galatsi in north-west Athens hosts the
table tennis and rhythmic gymnastics events. The main arena seats 6,400
spectators.

GOUDI OLYMPIC COMPLEX
The Goudi complex consists of two venues - the Goudi Olympic Hall and the
Olympic Modern Pentathlon Centre, which has facilities for swimming, running and
riding. The Goudi Hall hosts the badminton plus the shooting and fencing
disciplines.

INDOOR ARENA (Helliniko Olympic Complex)
With a capacity of over 13,000, the Indoor Arena in Helliniko hosts the
preliminary rounds of the basketball and handball finals.

FENCING HALL (Helliniko Olympic Complex)
The fencing hall at Helliniko boasts two dedicated rooms, one of the 3500
seats for the preliminary rounds and a 5000-capacity arena for the finals.

OLYMPIC BASEBALL CENTRE (Helliniko Olympic Complex)
Baseball is not a popular sport in Greece, but a brand new centre has been
built in the south of Athens, the largest being an 8,500 seat stadium.

OLYMPIC CANOE/KAYAK SLALOM CENTRE (Helliniko Olympic Complex)
The Olympic Canoe/Kayak Slalom Centre is located within the Helliniko Olympic
Complex, in the south of Athens near the village of marathon and has room for
8,000 fans of the wet and wild.

OLYMPIC HOCKEY CENTRE (Helliniko Olympic Complex)
A brand new construction specifically for the Olympics, the hockey centre
boasts a main stadium with a capacity over 8,000.

OLYMPIC SOFTBALL STADIUM (Helliniko Olympic Complex)
The Softball Stadium is a new construction in the heart of the Helliniko
Olympic Complex, with a capacity of over 4,500 in the main arena.

KAFTANZOGLIO STADIUM (Thessaloniki)
Home of Iraklis football club, the 25,000-capacity Kaftanzoglio Stadium in
Greece's second largest city is one of the bases for the soccer competition
during the Olympics, hosting some of the preliminary matches and semi-finals.

MARKOPOULO OLYMPIC EQUESTRIAN CENTRE
The Markopoulo Olympic Equestrian Centre covers approximately 940,000 square
metres and includes stables for 300 horses and facilities for the jumping event,
the dressage and the cross-country.

MARKOPOULO OLYMPIC SHOOTING CENTRE
The Olympic Shooting Centre in Markopoulo consists of four main buildings for
2,000 spectators, for the events of shooting with mobile and clay targets.

NIKAIA OLYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING HALL
Weightlifting is a very popular sport in Greece and the Olympic Weightlifting
Hall was one of the first projects to be planned and supported for the Games by
the General Secretariat of Sports.

PAMPELOPONNISIAKO STADIUM (Patra)
Another football venue, Pampeloponnisiako Stadium has had its facilities
heavily upgraded. The name means `Stadium of the whole Peloponnese', referring
to the region of Peloponissos which is one of the largest in Greece).

PANKRITIO STADIUM (Crete)
The Games extend to Crete, the island south of Greece, with the
27,000-capacity Pankrito Stadium hosting some of the football.

PANTHESSALIKO STADIUM (Volos)
The Panthessaliko Stadium in Volos, one of the most beautiful cities in
eastern Greece, hosts preliminary matches of the Olympic Football Tournament.
The venue has been upgraded to reach a 20,000 capacity.

PARNITHA OLYMPIC MOUNTAIN BIKE VENUE
The mountain bike race is set along a magnificent route at Parnitha, a
mountain situated in the north of Athens.

PERISTERI OLYMPIC BOXING HALL
The boxing takes place in a brand new 8,000 capacity facility in Peristeri.
The Olympic Boxing competition lasts 15 days, from August 14-29 with one rest
day on August 26.

SCHINIA OLYMPIC ROWING AND CANOEING CENTRE
The Schinia Olympic Rowing and Canoeing Centre, near Marathon, features a lake
2,250 metres long that will host the rowing and flatwatercanoe/kayak
competition.

VOULIAGMENI OLYMPIC CENTRE
The Olympic triathlon competition is held at the coastal at Vouliagmeni
centre. The swimming takes place at the Oceanida beach, with the start from a
floating pontoon.
The cycling route will have constant ascents and descents in the mountainous
region while the running will be staged in three 3.3km laps.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boreia kai Notia Korea mazi sthn teleth enar3hs
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/SPORT/07/02/olympics.korea/
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-07/02/content_1566519.htm
http://www.olympic.org/uk/news/media_centre/press_release_uk.asp?id=910

Gia thn Ethnikh
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldFootballNews&storyID=5576616&section=news
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/07/02/sports1615EDT0340.DTL
http://msn.foxsports.com/story/2555458

Thibetianoi diamartyrontai enantion twn kinezwn
http://www.savetibet.org/News/News.cfm?ID=2604&c=6
http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=7194

Asfaleia...
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/athens2004/story/0,14529,1252287,00.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/02/wolym02.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/07/02/ixnewstop.html
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2959035a1823,00.html
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/motorsports/9056079.htm?1c
http://www.news24.com/News24/Sport/More_Sport/0,,2-9-32_1551297,00.html
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=190&art_id=qw1088674562144B216
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Οι times δε λένε να σταματήσουν με τίποτα! Confused

Οι καθυστερήσεις στα έργα θα έχουν επιπτώσεις στην ασφάλεια, υποστηρίζoυν αυτή τη φορά...

Το άρθρο απο flash.gr:

http://greece.flash.gr//soon/2004/7/4/26367id/
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrow Αμφισβητούν - και πάλι- την ασφάλεια οι N.Y Times


http://www.eboom.gr/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=471&Itemid=2
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Εγκωμιαστικές αναφορές από τα ξένα ΜΜΕ για τη νίκη της Εθνικής, αν και οι New York Times δεν παρέλειψαν να μας πάρουν στο ψιλό....
http://www.in.gr/news/article.asp?lngEntityID=549809&lngDtrID=244

Ήθελα να ήξερα αν στην Αμερική θα έβγαιναν τόσες εκατοντάδες χιλιάδες κόσμου στους δρόμους, ουσιαστικά χωρίς μέτρα ασφαλείας αλλά και χωρίς τον παραμικρό φόβο γι' αυτό.
Αφού τους αρέσει τόσο πολύ να ζουν σε γυάλα, ας τους πάρουμε για pets βρε αδερφέ...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Αυτό είναι αλήθεια Γιάννη. Το επεσήμανε και ένας σχολιαστής χθες (στο MEGA αν θυμάμαι καλά), ότι τόσο όλοι οι επίσημοι της χώρας, όσο και αυτοί οι ήρωες παίκτες, ήταν "εκτεθημένοι" σε πάνω από 100.000 κόσμο, με καμιά 10ριά μπράβους όλους και όλους γύρω τους για να τους οδηγήσουν στην εξέδρα, χωρίς κανείς να νιώσει να απειλείται.
Άντε να βγάλεις τη Βασίλισσα της Αγγλίας και τον Μπους δίπλα σε κόσμο, χωρίς προηγουμένως να έχεις ζητήσει το ποινικό μητρώο καθενός.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Πάντως, αυτό που έγραψαν οι αμερικανοί για τα πεζοδρομία, δεν έχουν και πολύ άδικο. Το δικό μας μάτι μπορεί να έχει συνηθίσει να βλέπει την ασχήμια ως δεδομένη, αλλά για τους ξένους, δεν είναι έτσι.
Σε μια απόσταση 10 λεπτών, από την έξοδο του μετρό στο Σύνταγμα μέχρι το Καλλιμάρμαρο, βλέπεις τα πεζοδρόμια της λ. Αμαλίας έτσι όπως είναι, 40 μέρες πριν τους Αγώνες (και δυστυχώς έτσι θα παραμείνουν), τις παλαιωμένες στάσεις των ΜΜΜ, τα μονοπάτια στον Εθνικό Κήπο, μέσα στο σκουπίδι, με σπασμένα τα φωτιστικά, με 'τρύπες' πρόχειρα σκεπασμένες, έτοιμες να σε καταπιούν μέσα στο σκοτάδι, το χώρο μπροστά από το Ζάππειο, στρωμένο με πίσσα δρόμων, αντί με ένα υλικό, που θα έδινε την αίσθηση της πλατείας...
Αν και είναι εκτός θέματος, αλλά ας με συγχωρήσουν οι διαχειριστές, χθες πηγαίνοντας στο Στάδιο είδα μια πόλη, που με τίποτα δεν σε έπειθε, ότι σε λίγες ημέρες φιλοξενεί Ολυμπιακούς Αγώνες. Και μιλάμε για το κέντρο της και όχι για κάποια υποβαθμισμένη γειτονιά της. Δυστυχώς...
Και θα πω και για τους εκστασιασμένους ελληνες, που έσβηναν τα τσιγάρα τους πάνω στα μάρμαρα του σταδίου. ...Οταν δεν έπαιζαν "μπουκαλοπόλεμο" με τους από κάτω τους.
Θλίψη.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Μεταφορά από άλλο post - exitmusician

spiros12345 wrote:
Not very positive
Sports

A sprint to finish for Athens Games

By Jim Reeves

Star-Telegram Staff Writer


ATHENS, Greece - Only one question occurs to me as I stand virtually in the shadow of the Parthenon and gaze into the open end of the Panathenean Olympic Stadium near the center of Athens: Exactly where is the air-conditioned press box?

It is hot in Athens. Muggy, sticky hot. And the worst months of the summer -- July and August -- are still to come.

I'm here on vacation, not for the 2 1/2 weeks of dawn-to-midnight work that will face my journalist comrades Gil LeBreton, Charean Williams and Richie Whitt when they arrive here in the second week of August to cover the 2004 Olympic Games.

But I can already feel their pain, their sweat and their frustration.

This is not going to be easy, which, of course, isn't a stop-the-presses news story by any means.

The question on everyone's lips is simple and direct, but complicated, like most things in Athens.

Will this city be ready for the Games?

From my admittedly quickie glimpse at the city on June 27, there can only be one answer: Absolutely not.

The idea was not just to construct an Olympic village, but to spruce up the entire city of four million people.

Nice try.

The Opening Ceremonies are Aug. 13, and my guess is it will take that long just to get all the scaffolding down and out of sight, much less actually finish the construction.

Roads near the city's main indoor arena and new soccer stadium, not far from the port of Piraeus, remain in a state of repair and reconstruction.

I can only imagine the main Olympic complex being built from scratch and located somewhere in the northern suburbs is in a similar state of flux.

The Panathenean Stadium, one of the stops on our tour after visiting the Acropolis, which looms over central Athens, isn't the problem. Only the finish of the men's and women's marathons and the archery finals will actually be held here, where the first contemporary Olympic Games took place in 1896.

Some 75,000 spectators flooded the stadium, which actually dates to the end of the 4th century BC, and another 50,000 found spots on the surrounding hillocks for the first modern games.

The stadium is open at one end, with row upon row of marble and limestone bleacher-style seats. Sorry, Jerry Jones, no luxury suites to sell at $500,000 each.

Something Jerry might like though: There is no press box at all, much less an air-conditioned one.

It is from this stadium every four years that the Olympic torch is lit and carried forth around the world.

If there's one area that Greece seems completely ready for the Olympics, it's in the souvenir trade.

Olympic souvenir items can already be found all over the Greek Islands, but be sure you have plenty of Euros on hand.

An official Olympic T-shirt in adult sizes is 25 Euros and some change, about $30 U.S. A golf-style shirt is a healthy 41 Euros, or more than $45 U.S. But they're hanging in every tourist shop from Rhodes to Mykonos to Santorini.

There's history here, of course. The Parthenon, sitting on the second highest hill in Athens, dominates the city. Nearby is Mars Hill, where St. Paul is said to have preached the gospel. St. George's Chapel, the highest point in Athens, looms not far away.

There are many convenient Metro stations, making getting around Athens a little easier than might be expected, but even the expansion of the Metro ran into trouble when engineers began uncovering valuable antiquities.

Traffic can be a nightmare.

"You're lucky ... it's Sunday afternoon," our cab driver, Stavros, said in halting English as he zipped and weaved through relatively light traffic on the way back to the cruise ship pier at Piraeus. The trip didn't take more than 20 minutes, max.

"Tomorrow," he shrugged, "maybe not so lucky. Maybe one hour, maybe more."

I had to ask him: "You think Athens will be ready for the games?"

He laughed and shrugged again.

"Who knows," he said, "but I don't think so."

Ready or not, they're coming and coming fast.

Back at the port, Greek policemen in camouflage patrol the area, 9mm pistols on their hips. We must pass through not one but two metal detectors before being allowed to reboard our ship.

And security hasn't even begun to tighten up yet.

LeBreton, of course, has covered the Olympics all over the globe, including South Korea. Something tells me, though, that this one will be one of the most difficult ever. Yet, I'm envious.

In five weeks, this is where the action will be, and he and Charean and Richie will all be right in the middle of it. They will have great stories to tell.

I can't wait to read every word.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Μάλιστα... ώστε αυτά λέει ο Jim;

Έλεγα κι εγώ, γιατί μου δημιουργήθηκε αυτός ο ανεξέλεγκτος κνησμός έμπροσθεν των γλουτιαίων μυών; Ιδού η απάντησις!

Ας αφήσουμε όμως τον Jimάκο και ας δούμε τι είπε ο γνωστός και μη εξαιρετέος Dr Rogge (ή Mr Jacques).

Οποία έκπληξις: σήμερα κυκλοφορούσαν τα ζυγά, οπότε ο συμπαθής "Olympic chief" (sic) μετεμορφώθη σε Doctor και μας τα βρήκε όλα καλά και θετικά.

> Rogge rejects ticket fears <


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Πες τα ρε admin με τους αυνάνες που μπλέξαμε... Ωραίο αυτό με τα μονά και τα ζυγά. Το άλλο με την όσφρηση των ονύχων το ξέρεις;

Απλά ΑΣ ΤΑ ΕΙΧΑΜΕ ΕΤΟΙΜΑ ΕΝΑ-ΔΥΟ ΜΗΝΕΣ ΝΩΡΙΤΕΡΑ - Γ$#%ΤΟ ΜΟΥ ΜΕΣΑ... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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Ypsilon wrote:
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ξέρεις τι μου τη δίνει Γρηγόρη; Να, τώρα διάβαζα το άρθρο του καραγκιόζη από πάνω και φεύγανε τα φάσκελα βροχή. Ότι είναι τέτοιο το κόλλημά τους, που περιμένανε να φτιάξουμε και δημοσιογραφικά θεωρεία στο καλλιμάρμαρο, και μάλιστα με κλιματισμό. Shocked Οι (ειδικοί) ανεμιστήρες πάγου που δουλέψανε σαν τρελοί στην Ατλάντα και το Σίδνεϊ, τώρα δεν τους αρέσουν!
Εδώ ούτε πανώ δεν επιτρέπουν στην οργανωτική να κρεμάσει στο Καλλιμάρμαρο, για να μην χαλάσει το μνημείο, κι αυτοί μου γυρεύουν λουξ σουίτα πάνω στο μάρμαρο.
Και το χειρότερο: Διαμορφώνουν γνώμη!!! Twisted Evil
Το διάβασες το άρθρο. Ουσιαστικά προεξοφλεί στους συναδέλφους του που θα καλύψουν τους Αγώνες, ότι θα περάσουν δυο βδομάδες κόλαση! Κι όχι μόνο τους προειδοποιεί, αλλά τους συμπονάει κιόλας. Evil or Very Mad Με αυτή τη νοοτροπία, άντε να περιμένεις αντικειμενική ενημέρωση. Κι αν οι συνάδελφοί του είναι της ίδιας ποιότητας με αυτόν, τότε βράσε ρύζι... Πώς να τους συμμαζέψεις και τι να τους εξηγήσεις; Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Λοιπον, μολις ξεσουρωσα, διαβασα ΟΛΕΣ τις εφημεριδες για πρωτη φορα εδω και 10 χρονια περιπου, και βεβαια εκανα και λιγο κατσ-απ με το Φορουμ. Το Τζιμακο δεν μπορω να γραψω εδω που τον εχω, αλλα αυτος και αλλοι ομιοι του θα τον καταπιουν τον Αυγουστο, οπως ακριβως τον καταπιαν ολοι με το Ευρωπαικο. Πριν 4 μερες ειχα ολο τον κοσμο γραμμενο, μετα την Κυριακη πλεον δεν μπορω να περιγραψω τι εχει συμβει οποτε δεν θα προσπαθησω. Απλα να πω οτι σημερα ημουνα στην Γλασκωβη, και ολοι μα ολοι (απο την δευτερα στο Λονδινο) μου δινανε συγχαρητιρια, και μου λεγανε οτι ζηλευουν που θα ειμαι Αθηνα τον Αυγουστο Exclamation . Και στο γραφειο μου εκοψαν αποκοματα απο ολες τις εφημεριδες της Σκωτιας για το λευκωμα που ετοιμαζω για τον γιο μου για να δει οταν μεγαλωσει τι εστι Ελλας.

Και το ποιο κουφο ισως που διαβασα - Θα ειχαμε γλειτωσει 10 χρονια βασανα, λεει, αν ειχαμε τον Δελλα στον Τρωικο Πολεμο Shocked Very Happy Cool

ΧΑΙΡΕ!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arthro tou Karamanli stin bretaniki Daily Telegraph:

http://www.in.gr/news/article.asp?lngEntityID=550090&lngDtrID=244

Stin idia efimerida poly kalo kai aisiodokso arthro gia tous Olympiakous tis Athinas (nomizo xreiazetai dwrean eggrafi gia na to deite):

http://www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2004/07/07/sowelc07.xml&sSheet=/portal/2004/07/07/ixportal.html

Apospasmata:

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts? Not on this occasion. By winning the European Championship, Greece have gifted us clear evidence of the effect a commitment to sport can have on a country.

It can raise morale. It raises profile. It raises all-round performance and investment. It provokes change. In short…it raises the game. Of the people, and of the country as a whole.

Greece have (potentially) the greatest ever Olympics still to come in just over a month's time. Yet, because of the country's newly acquired passion for sport, they already have the world's third-largest sporting prize in the bag.

Greece this week reaped the first benefits of a brave decision to go for the Olympics seven years ago. Some might have been shocked by their performance in Portugal. They shouldn't have been. The Greeks haven't finished yet.
The commitment this small, proud country has shown to sport since winning the right to stage the Games means they will surprise a lot more people before the end of August.

Athens will be spectacular, and Greece will collect plenty more medals to go with those gained three days ago.
Given the same enlightened approach, and the conviction required to address difficult issues associated with an Olympic bid, Britain could easily enjoy similar rewards in eight years' time.Greece will collect plenty more medals to go with those gained three days ago
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ρεπορταζ για την πυρκαγιά από το BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3874455.stm

Μάλλον έχουν βάλει ειδικό "ψαχτήρι" και μόλις βρεθεί κάτι που αρχίζει από Ολυμπιακ* το κάνουν αμέσως θέμα. Οι περασμένες τεράστιες πυρκαγιές στην Πάρνηθα και αλλού ποτέ δε γίνονταν θέμα στο BBC ή αλλού.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5000680/

Αυτός εξηγεί τί γίνεται στο μυαλό των Αμερικανών καλύτερα από όλους.

Mostly, it seems, they’ve caved in to the fear of terrorism.

The fear is not rational, but it is understandable. That isn’t a contradiction. Our brains are programmed to react with irrational fear to things gruesome and grisly, no matter how remote the chances of them actually happening to us.

If some hapless surfer becomes human sushi for a shark in Australia, and it makes all the major news outlets, people will be afraid to go in the water in Florida. People who should be afraid of backing out of their driveways are instead afraid of flying.

A psychologist of some sort — he was sitting on the next bar stool and if he told me the name of his specialty, I forgot it, although I do remember a great joke the guy two stools down told me about a lawyer, a priest, and a cocker spaniel — once told me this is just the way we react. There’s a scientific name for it — I didn’t catch that, either — but, basically, the more horrifying the situation, the more frightened we are of it. The chances of it actually happening have nothing to do with it.

So when we should be worried about the things that probably will kill us — heart disease and cancer — we’re worrying instead about being the one person a year pushed in front of a subway train.

Which brings us to our reluctant heroes. Being blown up by terrorists is one of those things that triggers the irrational fear reflex. The reality is that few places will be safer than inside an Olympic venue. Downtown Athens you may worry about a bit, but the venues and the athletes’ quarters will be virtual fortresses. The chances are better of getting hurt in a car accident back home than of getting hurt inside the Olympic venues.

Before you say that’s easy for me to say — or after, if you’ve already beaten me to the cliché — I’ll be in Athens, reporting on, among other things, the struggles of the U.S. Olympic Basketball Team that so few of the good players cared to play for. I’ve never thought of not going. These are the Olympics, the biggest sporting event on the third rock from the sun. It’s worth whatever small risk there may be to go there.

For me, there’s not even any glory, just the chance to cover the best athletes in the world competing to see which is the absolute best. In virtually every sport, you can’t find an athlete worth the name who would even consider passing up that chance.

But in American basketball, you can hardly find an athlete who can be bothered to participate.

It’s a sad commentary.[/url]
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Πολύ καλή η ανάλυση. Ο δημοσιογράφος μάλλον έχει δεί το Bowling for Columbine του Michael Moore που αποτελεί πραγματεία για τη σχέση των Αμερικανών με το φόβο και τον καταλυτικό ρόλο των μέσων στην καλλιέργεια του φόβου.

Ένα ακόμα άρθρο από το Reuters άσχετο με το θέμα της τρομοκρατίας σχετικά με τους Κινέζους παρατηρητές στην Ολυμπιάδα της Αθήνας

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5610344

Highlights:

"I feel that Athens' preparation work, on the whole, is going according to plan. The time in which they have to build some venues is tight, but I do engineering and I think they have it under control."

"I think venue construction (in Beijing) will really be done in about the middle of '07, I estimate it will take more than a year to adjust and try everything" Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Venues for the 2008 Summer Games in Beijing will be completed about a year in advance, says Liu Jingmin, executive vice-president of the Beijing Games organizing committee.

"I think venue construction will really be done in about the middle of '07," Liu told Reuters Wednesday.

Much of Beijing's construction may be done earlier, he added, but additional time would be needed for fine-tuning.

"I estimate it will take more than a year to adjust and try everything," Liu said.


Βέβαια αν τα τελειώναμε και ένα χρόνο νωρίτερα, δεν θα δίναμε δικαίωμα σε κανένα. Και θα χαμε και χρόνο για πραγματικό τέστιγκ και όχι για τα ημίμετρα που κάναμε μέχρι τώρα. Για να μην λέμε ότι μας φταίει το CNΝ.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greek Chic is the word!

Να και ένα ακόμα και ένα θετικότατο άρθρο από τον Καναδά όπου η κυρία Χαραλαμπίδη από τον τοπικό ΕΟΤ τους τα είπε πολύ καλά. Ελπίζω μόνο οι Καναδοί να μην το πάρουν κατά λέξη και έρθουν εδώ περιμένοντας να βρουν Αθηναίους που να φέρνουν του Σάκη Ρουβά και να κυκλοφορούν στους δρόμους με αρχαιοπρεπείς ντιζαινάτες χλαμύδες και σανδάλια Razz Very Happy Razz Very Happy Razz

από τον ΣΚΑΙ
http://www.skairadio.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_skaigreece_117954_08/07/2004_101841

και το πρωτότυπο
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1089065409741
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An thelete na deite ta xiliades grfeiokratika problimata pou telika odigisan stis kathysteriseis sta olympiaka erga, oriste ena poly endiaferon arthro apo exidikeumeno site kai oxi efimerida

http://www.supplymanagement.co.uk/EDIT/SM_featuredarticles_item.asp?id=11041
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Λοιπόν MArin, το άρθρο είναι εξαιρετικό και μου έκανε το αίμα μου να βράζει.

Όχι μόνο περιγράφει την καραγκιοζιά μας, αλλά μέσα έχει το διαμάντι ότι μπορεί να είμαστε η πρώτη πόλη μετά το Μόντρεαλ που δεν θα έχει κέρδος από τους Ολυμπιακούς!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nikos C. wrote:
Όχι μόνο περιγράφει την καραγκιοζιά μας, αλλά μέσα έχει το διαμάντι ότι μπορεί να είμαστε η πρώτη πόλη μετά το Μόντρεαλ που δεν θα έχει κέρδος από τους Ολυμπιακούς!!!


Σε αυτό το σημείο το ρεπορτάζ δεν είναι σωστό. Αν και γενικά πολλοί νομίζουν και το γράφουν ότι μόνο το Μόντρεαλ μπήκε μέσα, η αλήθεια είναι (και θα βρώ την επίσημη πηγή για να την ανεβάσω) ότι όλες οι Ολυμπιάδες εκτός από του Los Angeles είχαν παθητικό. Στο Μόντρεαλ απλά το παθητικό ήταν πολύ μεγάλο. Στις άλλες καλύφτηκε από την καλή εικόνα των πόλεων και την τουριστική ανάπτυξη μετά από τους αγώνες.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Αρκετά καλό το άρθρο, αν και προσεγγίζει το θέμα κυρίως από τη μεριά των προβλημάτων στον τομέα των προμηθειών (procurement), αφήνοντας να εννοηθεί ότι το κόστος των Αγώνων εκτοξεύτηκε μόνο εξαιτίας του λανθασμένου τρόπου οργάνωσης του εν λόγω συστήματος.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Αν και γενικά πολλοί νομίζουν και το γράφουν ότι μόνο το Μόντρεαλ μπήκε μέσα, η αλήθεια είναι (και θα βρώ την επίσημη πηγή για να την ανεβάσω) ότι όλες οι Ολυμπιάδες εκτός από του Los Angeles είχαν παθητικό. Στο Μόντρεαλ απλά το παθητικό ήταν πολύ μεγάλο. Στις άλλες καλύφτηκε από την καλή εικόνα των πόλεων και την τουριστική ανάπτυξη μετά από τους αγώνες.


Θα ήθελα να το διαβάσω αυτό. Είμαι λίγο αμφίβολος για την ερμηνεία που δίνεις γιατί η τουριστική ανάπτυξη και η καλή εικόνα δεν μπαίνουν στους λογιστικούς απολογισμούς μετά.

Από την άλλη, υποθέτω ότι οι διαφορετικές ερμηνείες οφείλονται σε διαφορετικές λογιστικές μεθόδους.

Το κρίσιμο ερώτημα είναι πως κρατάει η Αθήνα όταν χρησιμοποιείς το ίδιο μέτρο σύγκρισης.

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Αρκετά καλό το άρθρο, αν και προσεγγίζει το θέμα κυρίως από τη μεριά των προβλημάτων στον τομέα των προμηθειών (procurement), αφήνοντας να εννοηθεί ότι το κόστος των Αγώνων εκτοξεύτηκε μόνο εξαιτίας του λανθασμένου τρόπου οργάνωσης του εν λόγω συστήματος


Το άλλο που με σύγχυσε είναι ότι η κυβέρνηση απαγόρεψε τις προμήθειες από χώρες εκτός ΕΕ και δεν ήρε την απαγόρευση χτισίματος ξενοδοχειών στην Αθήνα επειδή λέει "δεν θα έβρισκαν μεταολυμπιακή χρήση".

Αυτά είναι φοβερά αναχρονιστικές νοοτροπίες, για να μην πω ότι ειδικά το περί μη προμηθειών εκτός ΕΕ, μάλλον ημετέρους εξυπηρετούσε.
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