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[marin]

Epeidi aisthanomai ypeuthini gia tin tropi tou topic na pw oti anefera tin omoiotita sta onomata ws asteio kai tipota parapanw.
Twra gia opoiadipote parexigisi tou asteiou pou akolouthise zitw egw prosopika sygnomi apo ton Y , an kai nomizw oti einai xekatharo se olous mesa sto forum oti i symperifora tou Y einai ypodeigmatiki kai apsegadiasti.

[nikitas]

Ypsilon διαφωνούμε συμφωνώντας αλλά μάλλον δεν έχει νόημα η κουβέντα ειδικά όταν οι απόψεις είναι συγκεκριμένες και έχουν παρουσιαστεί εκτενέστατα και μέχρι εξάντλησης εδώ. Δεν πρόκειται να κάνω κανένα πρόσθετο σχόλιο σε αυτό το topic αλλιώς να μου καεί το video Μόνο links από εδώ και πέρα

υπόλοιποι: Το topic δεν είναι για τα διεθνή ΜΜΕ? Το μετατρέψατε σε topic ασφαλείας και εξακρίβωσης στοιχείων Το είπε και ο Υπουργός: Το πολύ Ζέπελιν βλάπτει σοβαρά την υγεία.

Nikos C&D Πω πω κάζο που έπαθες; Και άντε τώρα να ξαναμαζεύεις γαλόνια και αστέρια. Θα παρακαλέσω τους mods να σου δώσουν τα δικά μου γιατί πάντα είχα μια αλλεργία σε γαλόνια, αστεράκια και εξουσίες.

[Nikos C.]

Village Best Ever

[Byzantio21]

Nikos C.

To parapano arthro htane sto Herald Sun, h megaliteri efimerida ths melbournhs se kukloforisi kai h megaliteri sthn Australia.

Epatha sok otan to diavasa to proi!!

[pekkek]

Συγκλονιστικό κυρίες και κύριοι συνάδελφοι.

Από τους Times του Λονδίνου τώρα μαθαίνουμε ότι οι Ολυμπιακοί Αγώνες χρηματοδοτήθηκαν από ... ναι ... τους Άγγλους.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8209-1201419,00.html

Χαρακτηριστικά αποσπάσματα.

We have already paid for this tiresome and overblown jamboree many times over in subsidies, grants and aid to Greece over past years.

Athens is now floating in a bubble of EU slush funds, Olympic junketing and public sector extravagance that is shortly to be pricked.

Greeks are good at spending money, in particular other people's money, but not very good at spending their own.

Και το καταπληκτικό crescendo για να κλείσουμε:

Within a couple of years, the EU trough will be crowded with eager feeders from Eastern Europe, and Greece will have to take a smaller share. Then, who will pay the Olympic debt, if tourists do not return in droves? Perhaps the fiscal authorities in Athens will look to London, which is host to a large community of expatriate Greeks who pay little tax on their international income. Perhaps the Latsis family, the Livanos or the Onassis clan could be persuaded, as an act of solidarity with fellow Greeks, to pay for the festivities. If they do not, I fear that you and I will carry on paying.

Με τις υγείες μας.
--ΠΕ

[smarg]

Ωχ ένα αδέσποτο!!! Αν το δουν οι ξένοι τη βάψαμε.....

[pekkek]

Άντε, ας πούμε και τα καλά.

Από τον Καναδά (Toronto Star) που εγώ τουλάχιστο πιστεύω ότι έχει διαφορετική κουλτούρα από τις ΗΠΑ σε αρκετά κρίσιμα σημεία.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1091657412761&call_pageid=968332188492&col=970081593064

It's Herculean, what the Greeks have done.

The scene is reminiscent of just about every other Olympics in the last three decades, ever since the Games became superlatively monstrous and complex billion-dollar spectacles. So cut Athens a little slack.

--ΠΕ

[Byzantio21]

Blepoume oti oi Angloi einai megalitera zoa kai apo tous Australous.... As pane na mamithoun..... Kai dose mas ta marmara piso!!!!

[futuro]

[marin]

Nai loipon to parapanw arhtro apo tous Times, anikei stin katigoria "mas pire kai emas i mpala".
Auto to arthro einai i pio xekathari apodeixi anamixis tou Rupert Murdoch. Me 2 logia gia na sas balw sto klima, auti ti stigmi exei xekinisei enas polemos stin M.B. gia to an tha prepei na kanoun dimopsifisma gia na mpoune sto euro i oxi. I kybernisi Blair to exei yposxethei apo tin proigoumeni tetraetia alla epeidi o Tony, den kanei tipota an den einai apolytws sigouros oti tha kerdisei to dimpospifisma exei anablithei ep aoriston. Auto exei dwsei labi stous euroskeptikistes kai se ena ikano pososto pou thekei tin M.B. entelws ektos tis EE na akonisoun ta maxairia tous. Se auti tin taxi anikoun kai oi Times oi opoioi polles fores grafoun entelws apisteuta pragmata me to ti tha symbei an erthei to euro stin agglia, kai genikws pseudontai asystolws oson afora tin EE.
Episis den milane pote gia to ti kerdizei i M.B. apo tin EE. Parola auta einai ena entelws aparadekto arthro, kai otan kapoia stigmi brw xrono nomizw oti tha grapsw ena letter to the editor...

[gm2263]

[ZORBAS]

gm2263. Den ante3a file tou to egrapsa. Exw poly kairo na grapsw se efhmerida

Dear Carl,

I cant help but feeling, that amongst some valid observations, there are a lot of half truths and inaccuracies in your business article on the Olympics (and a hint of jealousy?), which I am at a loss to explain. I am sure you will get a lot of e-mails on this one so I wont even bother you with a long tirade. In fact I am writing to thank you. I am leaving with my family for the Olympics tomorrow and we are all really looking forward to it. Thanks for subsidising my entertainment!

with Kind Regards... klp

[sq350]

1. Ayta ta anthroparia tha katalavoun syntoma oti ta lefta tous (profanws ennooun ta xrimata apo to FPA, ton opoio sto katw katw den plirwnoun mono oi Aggloi alla oloi oi Eyrwpaioi) epiasan topo. Ayto pou pote den tha katalavoun POTE einai oti i xwra tous exei ypoxrewseis kai desmeyseis enanti tis E.E. Ayto einai provlima tous. As prosexan.

2. Prepei ki emeis na katalavoume oti i "diaploki" den einai elliniki efevresi, alla agglosaksoniki. Ki akomi na xonepsoume oti oi Olympiakoi einai to megalytero project pagkosmiws, ki opoios menei ap eksw apo ton paktolo xrimatwn pou ksodeyontai efarmozei to "o skopos agiazei ta mesa" gia na prokalesei pligma ston antipallo.

Me apla logia: den tha eprepe na perimenoume diaforetiki antimetwpisi apo anithikous kai diaplekomenous epixeirimaties pou dinoun entoles se strateymenous dimosiografous. Den einai zitima apla agnoias tou ti exei ginei stin Ellada alla kai skopimotitas.

A! Kai na min ksexname vevaia oti ki emeis dwsame aformes me tis kathysteriseis 2 etwn. Me ayto tous dwsame epixeirimata, ta ypoloipa epixeirimata ta kataskeyasan monoi tous.

Analoga paradeigmata kataskeyis epixeirimatwn yparxoun polla, pio karampinata kai arketa prosfata gia na ta exoume ksexasei. Vlepe Iraq, opla mazikis katastrofis klp.


Idou kai to diko mou mail ston Carl

"....I enjoyed the way that "aliens" take a dim view of a country they know almost nothing about.

But it’s not the first time I read such an inaccurate text written with a light heart in a British newspaper. Do I have to remind you the Iraqi WMD?

You should of known the ancient Greek adage “oper edi dikse” (Latin : “quod erat”)

Kindest Regards..." klp klp

[dimetro]

Merikes ksena dhmosieumata:http://www.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_ell_3304678_06/08/2004_111783
ta sxolia dika sas............
(autoi oi australoi theloun poly ksulo....... )

[woofy]

Poly kalo dimosieuma tou USA Today gia tin asfaleia

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2004-08-05-athens-security_x.htm

[woofy]

Apo arthro tou NBC gia asfaleia:

World needs to rally around Athens
Fans shouldn't let terrorism fears ruin Olympic enjoyment

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5612268/

Oi teleutaies paragrafoi:

The greater loss, however, would be for freedom-loving people to cower in fear of the unknown few intent on using violence and intimidation for their own foul ends. The world needs to support the people of Greece, who have spent more money than they have and worked tirelessly to do what they probably were not equipped to pull off.

The world needs to come to Athens, cheer the athletes from countries large and small and, most of all, let the terrorists know that while they may create fear, they cannot break the spirit of the Olympic movement, which has for so long been the story of triumph over hate and ignorance and the attempt to create international fellowship on the playing fields even when it doesn’t exist in the world.

[Argyris]

Eimai poly eytixismenos pou yparxoun akoma morfwmenoi an8rwpoi se auton ton kosmo, kai eidika pera apoton atlantiko!!!
Den pisteuw na yphrxe kalhteros tropos na perigrapsei kaneis auta pou leme emeis edw sto Forum apo auto edw to ar8ro sto USA Today!!!!

Bravo, se sygxairw kai se eyxaristoume poly Robin Waterfield!!!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-08-04-waterfield_x.htm

[P.A.O.]

Argyri , για βοηθησε με λιγο !!

Τι εγραψε ο Robin Waterfield ?

[Argyris]

Ola auta pou leme edw metaxy mas, dhl. :

Arxizei me to oti ola ta MME (eidika ths USA) mas exoun katasparaxei tous teleutaious mhnes. Oti den 8a ta kataferoume, oti 8a ginoume rezili ktl.!
Apantaei monos tou oti nai yphrxan ka8usterhseis logo tou yperbolikou kostous kai twn megalwn ergwn! Alla pros8etei, oti mono stereotypa, la8os apopseis kai oxi apodeixeis exoun prokalesei auta ta arnhtika reportaz!!!

Synexizei na leei oti sthn Atlanta2000, 100 meres prin tous agwnes eixe dhmosieutei sthn amerikh mia geleiografia me enan a8lhth pou etrexe kai mprosta tou htan mia mpoulntoza pou anoige ton dromo!!! Dhkaia leei, giati kai se emas:
- to olympiako parko den htan etoimo
- 7.000.000 eishthria den eixan kan ektypw8ei
- h ekpaideush twn e8elwntwn den eixe arxhsei
- to aerodromio htan akoma sthn anakataskeuh

Kai h A8hna synexizei eixe tetoia problhmata opws auta! Synexizei na leei pws oloi milan gia thn asfaleia, sthn opoia ependysame 1.5 dys. Ara den mporoume na poume oti den kanoume tipota, eidika apo thn stigmh pou sthn Atlanta eskase Bomba, alla parol' auta leme oti eixame epityximenous agwnes --> Ara giati na mhn to poume auto kai gia thn A8hna?

Meta afighte oti h olh thn istoria mas me thn tourkokratia kai to ti perasame gia na ginoume dhmokratia (pagkosmio, emfylio, xounta ktl.). Synexizei me to orama mas na mpoume sthn Eurwph kai na anikoume pali kapou, kai eidika sthn Dysh!!!!

Telos leei oti autoi oi Olympiakoi mporei na exoun epityxia. Kai an exoun kleinei "eyxete" makari ta MME ths GHS, na stamathsoun na mas petan stereotypa "cliche", na mhn basizonte se la8h dhmosieumata kai na mas krinoun me thn prosfath istoria mas!!!!!!!
ETSI 8A EPITREPOTAN PIA NA PAROUME MIA 8ESH POU MAS A3IZEI, STON 1o KOSMO!!!!

[woofy]

Diakrinw genika mia kali antimetwpisi apo to USA Today i mou fainetai?

Kserei kaneis an yparxei kapoios logos gia auto??

[KEFALONITIS]

H USA TODAY einai h monh pane8nikh efhmerida sth US me thn megaluterh kukloforia.

[epsilon]

Το άρθρο αυτό της USA TODAY έπαιξε σε όλα τα κανάλια σήμερα και πραγματικά μας θυμίζει πως πραγματικά γράφεται ένα δημοσιογραφικό πόνημα. Με στοιχεία, επιχειρήματα όχι φανατισμένο, χωρίς υπερβολές, χωρίς κρυφές σκοπιμότητες. Μπράβο στο δημοσιογράφο που γράφει ΑΝΤΙΚΕΙΜΕΝΙΚΑ.
Και ναι, καιρός είναι να διεκδικήσουμε τη θέση που δικαιωματικά μας ανήκει στο λεγόμενο "Πρώτο" κόσμο. Μας αξίζει.

[sq350]

Den mnporw na pw oti ws Ellina den me ikanopoiise ayto to arthro kai malista apo mia megalis kykloforias amerikaniki efimerida pou diavazetai apo pollous kai KYRIWS apo prokateilimenous kai ageneis epikrites mas.

OMWS :
Den prepei na ksexasoume (kai epimenw se ayto) oti ki emeis dwsame dikaiwmata na mas theoroun orismenoi banania kai xwra tempelidwn kai aksestwn. Kai anaferomai stis kathysteriseis twn ergwn. Den prepei pote na ksexasoume ta 2 xamena xronia pou epese ksisimo asystolo kai eprepe na mas prosvaloun katamoutra kai na epivaloun tin Aggelopoulou pou tin empisteyontan toulaxiston epeidi itan kapatsa kai methodiki.
Den amfevala oti sto telos tha ta kataferoume. Oi ksenoi omws pou exoun diaforetiki nootropia apo emas kai theloun ola na einai etoima oxi amesws alla "xthes" mas ethapsan me ta dimosieymata tous ena xrono twra. Thymamai oti prin apo peripou 10 mines i kyvernisi kai i Aggelopoulou elegan oti oso plisiazoume stous Agwnes tha exoume olo kai perissoteres epitheseis apo ton kseno typo. Ti eixame kanei gia na tous voulwsoume ta stomata? Tipota! To apotelesma itan DISFIMISI --> XAMILA EISITIRIA --> XAMILOS TOURISMOS kai kyriws "OI ELLINES DEN ALLAKSAN".

Twra me ta erga mas tous volwsame ta stomata. To paradexontai me tin kakia pou vgazoun ta arthra tous.

To erwtima einai twra oxi an tha prolavoume na eimaste etoimoi gia tous Agwnes, alla an tha prolavoume mesa se 15 meres apsogis diorganwsis na kserizosoume tin eikona pou exei dimiourgithei eks aitias mas kai eis varos mas.

Epitelous ayti i peripeteia as mas ginei mathima.

[marin]

Poioi apo edw pou menoun London piran simera to apogeuma Evening St? Arxizei tin kalypsi twn Olympiakwn me ekteni arthra apo Deutera kai kathe mera. Oi dimosiografoi tous einai idi ekei! Makari na pane ola kala giati an thymamai kala itan i Evening St i prwti pou eixe arrxisei na fonazei gia tin Atlanta edw stin Agglia. Itan oi prwtoi pou grapsan arthro gia tis athlies metafores stin Atlanta. Kai genikws den xarizoun kastana kathws to ti exoun sourei mexri stigmis sto London Bid den legetai kai na fantasteite oti to ypostirizoun kai entherma!
Diladi an itan kata...i Cassani tha eixe pidixei apo to Canary Wharf anti na paraitithei aplws!

[Nikos C.]

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